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After my last post, I put a similar query to the Facebook world. I got a ton of widely varied responses. It's a public post, if you want to look. Some of the respondents are friends of friends, even. I don't know. People say exposure is inevitable, but for us it was a religious issue. Would you tell your Jewish friends to go ahead and buy bacon because they won't be able to resist pork forever? I know that's a bad analogy, but to me "it's inevitable" is lazy.

Anyway, this part amused me.

Here's my mom's response: no excuse for them. period. you can have a pirate party with a treasure hunt. no swords, no guns. you could have blindfolded kids putting a patch on a big pirate face or gold pieces on a treasure chest. there is nothing you can say to convince me that toy weapons are ok.

Aaaaannnd here's my mother-in-law's: Used to be standard fare to play with weapons and cap guns, bow and arrows, fake swords even BB guns. The problem lies in the media current frenzy over gun control. Where it was acceptable now there is pressure. How can you avoid exposure when it is all over the TV and movies? It is sad but they must be prepared to defend themselves later in life. and feel confident about it.

Well, then.

If you had any doubt that James and I come from different worlds, here is Exhibit A. Actually, my mom would point out, TV and movies don't have to be inevitable either. Remember the part where we grew up with not TV (and I still believe we're better for it)? But they live a thousand miles apart and may never have reason to see each other again, and I don't really feel the need to have this full conversation with either of them.

Date: 2012-03-21 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewigweibliche.livejournal.com
Holy crap. Talk about two extremes of the spectrum. I find it laughable that toy swords and plastic guns prepare anyone to defend themselves. I've told Bennett that we don't play with guns and if he wants to learn to shoot for real, when he is older we will go take gun safety and shooting classes together. Having shot a gun personally, it is NOTHING like a toy gun. Holding a real sword? Nothing like that in real life.

On the flip side, your mother sounds afraid of weapons. I view them as tools. A fist is just as damaging when wielded by a violent and angry person.

I think when I say weaponry play is inevitable, I don't mean necessary. We do not have shoot 'em games. And we talk about boundaries. That said, if you have a weapon-free party, I would wholly support that and have a great conversation about that too.

Date: 2012-03-21 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlyeconomist.livejournal.com
I didn't really let my older son have toy weapons, and he still turned every stick he saw into a gun. Given the fact that he will see real guns in his life on a regular basis (family in Texas, yeah?!), ignorance of them didn't seem the best choice. Instead, the conversation of 'never point a gun, even a toy, at another person" was started early enough that it might actually sink in.

However, I did wait until he was 3 or 4 to actually start buying nerf type weapons, and swords. The boy loves swords. We go to the Ren Fair, and he wants another one.

Date: 2012-03-21 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princessgeek.livejournal.com
My vote is if you are thinking about not doing it, just don't do it. PIrates don't have to have guns. Or swords. They can be Somali pirates and just kidnap people and ransom them for money. But without weapons. No I'm kidding. I think your mom's idea is fine. Lots of buried treasure stuff and sea creatures to goof around with without having swords and guns. You could even do a "sea-themed" party - like for the plates and napkins and what have you and just give them pirate hats and eye patches and parrots to put on their shoulders.

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